Why Choose Duquesne for your FNP?

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FNP graduates Jamie Clark and Aimee McBroom-Harrison discuss why they chose Duquesne University to pursue their degree in Family Nurse Practitioner and what makes Duquesne’s program so unique.

Webinar Participants: 

  • Jamie Clark – Master of Science in Nursing, Family Nurse Practitioner graduate
  • Aimee McBroom-Harrison – Post-Master’s Certificate, Family Nurse Practitioner graduate
  • Sonia DePina – Enrollment Advisor
  • Karisma Vicioso – Enrollment Advisor
  • John Hall – Enrollment Advisor
  • Staci Bell – Enrollment Advisor

Transcript

Hi everyone and welcome to today’s Family Nurse Practitioner webinar, today we have the opportunity to chat with two family nurse practitioner graduates from Duquesne University Jamie Clark and Aimee McBroom-Harrison. Jamie and Amy will be telling us more about their experiences at the Duquesne family nurse practitioner student and why they chose Duquesne, with so many other family nurse practitioner programs out there.

This is Sonia DePina one of your enrollment advisors with Duquesne’s online nursing program. I’m also joined by Staci Bell, Karisma Vicioso, and John Hall. Before we actually jump into today’s discussion we’ll learn a little bit more about Jamie and Amy. So Jamie do you want to start off with telling us a little bit about yourself?

Sure my name is Jamie Clark I am born and raised pretty much in the Pittsburgh area so I’m a lifer I guess. I am a family nurse practitioner practicing with the Department of Neurosurgery in one of our Pittsburgh facilities. I’ve been practicing since 2014, I also teach for Duquesne University and the family nurse practitioner program just as a clinical adjunct faculty member. So I kind of look after a group of students who are doing their clinical practicum hours. Also I started off with an undergraduate degree from Duquesne University in 2007, was a cardiovascular intensive care unit nurse at Children’s Hospital Pittsburgh, and then when I went back to a family nurse practitioner school. I worked in interventional radiology and recovery room at one of the local facilities, so I’ve been practicing for just under four years now. Outstanding, thank you so much for that.

Amy, can you tell us a little bit more about yourself in your current role? Sure I currently work as an occupational health NP, and it’s kind of an urgent care clinic at a steel mill located about 40 miles outside of Pittsburgh. I grew up born and raised in Pittsburgh. As a nurse practitioner, I’ve did palliative care for a bit it wasn’t my cup of tea, I worked casually just until I got to fill in at a physician’s office, and then I also work at CMU casual and I continued that job in their student health department it’s a blast. Prior to that, I had got my masters from Waynesburg in 2014 and then I started the nurse practitioner program at Duquesne I just graduated in 2016 from Duquesne’s program, and I got my undergraduate degree from Penn State back in 2000. I had a huge background I worked I always had two jobs I worked in the OR and then I usually picked up casual in an ER, or I worked as a children’s rehab, a couple various jobs in there but a broad background as a nurse prior to becoming a nurse practitioner. So I’ve been a nurse practitioner for a little bit under two years. Wonderful thank you so much for that Amy, and hello everyone this is Karisma one of the enrollment advisors with the online nursing programs thank you so much to everyone for joining.

We’ll be going through a few questions before we open it up for the Q&A from today’s audience for those of you viewing live you’ll see a Q&A tool on your screen where you can go ahead and send some questions to our participants to answer. Go ahead and start sending us your questions and we’ll get to as many as we can today.

So to jump in into a few questions to get to the to get those discussions started, excuse me we’ll go back and forth between Jamie and Aimee if that’s all right with you ladies. Perfect so um Jamie if you would and Aimee as well um, why did you choose Duquesne University to pursue your MSN in the family nurse practitioner degree?

I actually think that the online flexibility was one of my primary sources and reasons of why I chose this program. You know I was single and by myself not married at the time and I needed to have the opportunity to still kind of practice as a nurse a little bit while I was going to school in the program. A lot of other programs that I looked at you know you had to go in sit in the classroom and really dedicate a lot of time in. A lot of the classes were during the daytime when I was working, and so that was one of the reasons. Also I think maybe because I know Duquesne and I love you know the mission of the University and I really valued what it stood for and I knew some of the teachers and instruction instructors here already. I don’t know, I just this university seemed to grab me a little bit more and be a little bit more familiar so to speak and they’re really dedicated. And I knew from an undergraduate standpoint they were very dedicated so I knew it would carry through you know from a graduate perspective as well.

Great, and Amy why did you choose Duquesne University to pursue your MSN in the FNP role? So I already have my MSN in Education Administration when I looked into becoming a nurse practitioner and wanted to do more than just administration or education. So I started looking and that there were a lot of programs that offered the FNP program a lot of online programs however, Duquesne had it was largely weighted in clinical hours, and that was really important to me because I’m a hands-on learner. As far as being patients and learning things and applying principles, I’ve learned in the classroom online here. I also like that the classes were asynchronous kind of the same reason Jamie said, I didn’t have to be at a class at the same time every week or cut a block out. I was blessed enough that I worked full-time and he told me to run with it, so I did work part-time for Duquesne teaching between one and three days a week as an undergraduate clinical instructor throughout the program but I was it was still a challenge, like it was very challenging, and it allowed me flexibility to do what I need to do and I could always kind of reach the instructors. They were very open to emails at 2:00 a.m.

Wonderful that’s great, and Jamie what were some of the things you were looking for in an FNP program? I was looking for a smaller based you know educational environment, also uniquely enough you know a lot of my colleagues and classmates were from all over the United States, and so I was kind of able to look at healthcare models and learn you know from that as well that was also very positive. I wanted something that would just really prepare me to be able to you know shape into the role of the FNP. I looked at the curriculum and there were a lot of clinical hours associated with it and it seemed like even though the coursework was online you could do that independently and the clinical hours you got just as much hands-on experience you know to see everything you would need to be successful.

Fantastic great, and Amy what were some of the things you were looking for in an FNP program? I was looking for mainly like flexibility, independence, and a lot of support as you need it but without research papers. I had just like I said I just graduated for my MSN and it was very heavily weighted in the didactic portion, so I’d already done a capstone I had already done a lot of research, so I wanted to do more hands-on and more in the community type nursing. So to say and you can offer that especially because in FNP suited for post-masters and not tradition so it allowed me to apply a lot of my things from my MSN program to my FNP post-master certificate. I also didn’t want the my master’s program was four hours of class one night a week or per class, I should say and I didn’t want that in-class rigidity that I had to be there and I had to rearrange my work schedule or my life around classes for another three years like I had done for the prior four with my master’s program. Completely understandable, great.

Jamie did anything surprise you about the FNP program at Duquesne? Maybe it’s bad to say no, it didn’t, I think that you know you really have to prepare yourself like this isn’t just something you’re going to do for fun. I think you know what I saw was what I got, a lot of times you they’re really forthcoming and upfront about their expectations. I also think that what I wouldn’t say it surprised me but this program was just as rigorous or difficult in my opinion then a lot of other programs that I have had other friends be involved in, so I think that sometimes there’s this stigma like oh it’s online it’s going to be easier it definitely was not. It was it was very challenging and you know it was I felt very prepared when I was finished.

How about how about you um Amy? My biggest surprise was I was pretty I was timid as far as education went, I mean I had umpteen years of education but I was very timid as far as asking questions or being assertive with instructors. Just from past experiences and Duquesne was wonderful, I never felt judged or made to feel inferior, they were more there for support like ‘come on, you got this girl’ one like that a girl that was phenomenal they were very encouraging. It was probably the hardest thing I’ve done, like as far as undergraduates, my graduate and then my FNP – my FNP was the hardest thing I’ve ever done, involves a lot of tears because it was it was so much, but I never felt like I was out even though as an online program, I never felt like I was out by myself someone was always just a phone call away, a text, and email from my clinical advisor to any of my instructors, too. My adjunct clinical person anyone was there anytime you needed them and they made that very well-known. It was phenomenal.

Fantastic and what benefits did you experience while learning online Jamie? There was a lot of independence, I would say and you know we did have a lot of opportunity have you know online what do you call them classes where your instructor was there and you could have video chat with them so it was very innovative. I would say we would have review sessions and things and I think that you really there was a lot of teamwork and things with your classmates that you may not be able to sit with and go over things you know. I learned a lot of teamwork. I would say with group projects and things, and let’s see the other benefits you could always go back and really review things more clearer, they have a lot of videos for us to watch as students, but I think the most beneficial thing were definitely like the webinars that we would have with our clinical faculty. You could sign up for them, they would have a couple different ones when it met your schedule to review things, and it kind of made you feel like you weren’t in an in like kind of cold, online situation. Like you can’t put names to faces and things and you know, I think that some people are better learning in a classroom, whereas I still felt like I was getting all the benefits.

Great, how about um how about you Amy? I like the flexibility to work on my own pace within a given semester, but you still had that structure of deadlines to meet, so it was more flexible like our H and Ps tended to be pretty in-depth and I would start on them the first week and turn them in the second week, and they weren’t due till week eight or ten. Like Jamie said the webinars they had were really nice, and if you couldn’t make it to them they were recorded you could go back and watch them. If you had additional questions you could always email someone and Duquesne made it very much, you wanted to rely on your peers when we did our discussion boards, they encouraged you to answer to each other to be a resource and ask questions back and forth, which at the time when it first started was stressful because you already had so many other things on your list to check off, but in retrospect when towards the end when I kind of figured out like what it kind of all clicked. I guess it was such a help because then as we got towards the end and you were stressed about something or needed something, you had your entire class you weren’t on that island all by yourself, they made it so you are forced to interact with people that they actually became your friends and it was pretty much like going to a traditional class.

Wonderful, what challenges did you encounter Amy? So the online testing was extremely stressful, you were video monitored through it, and I personally had some issues with the program and newer program I guess when we first started being using it and it was extremely stressful to be watched while you were being tested you would get caught later for queues but like that you did something you didn’t think about it was a kind of almost a nervous tic, and they would ask you about it or your email your instructor to Amy you did it again like you’d be like ‘oh I didn’t mean to’ that to me was probably the biggest stress of the entire program. Outside of that I didn’t think, like I mean normal am I going to pass, like, this is a lot of work stress, but nothing that wasn’t expected. Other than this online thing, which they started tweaking towards the end and from what I understand it’s gotten much better.

Wonderful, what challenges did you encounter Jamie? Well, I can empathize with Amy a little bit because my class was I graduated her 14 and we were like the first class that tried a lot of these different programs where they monitored your examination testing and things but some of the initial challenges I think that I had was you were given a lot of independence in an online program, in this program where you want that, but at the same time you’ve really got to make a good calendar and a good schedule for yourself and stick to it. Like it’s you can’t just keep pushing it in the back of your head like I’m busy with work or I’m busy with my family or I really don’t want to do this right now, like you know you don’t have to go sit and get participation points for going to class you know, you really have to come up with your own structured plan, and become a really self-driven learner. I would say they’re always there to help and guide you along if you’re having any trouble, but that was one of my you know things that I had to really come into would be to make a plan for myself and just really stick with it. You know it you can feel uncomfortable, I think when you know you have to set your computer up a certain way and you know that you’re being watched when you take your exam but I try to see it both ways I mean you know there has to be some kind of accountability for further school to say, well yes I prepared, very well trained, you know prepared students to the next step but my challenges were you know, it was unusual to have somebody looking into your home, but they have gotten a lot better with it the program they use now I have not heard any issues with it. At this point from an adjunct clinical faculty and I think just really buckling down, and you know being as independent as you know you need to be for success in this program.

Wonderful and both for Jamie and Amy what advice would you give students who are looking into the FNP program at Duquesne? I think not just any FNP program, if it’s something that sparks your interest you know you can do it if you really put your mind to it. Something so special about this program is you’re never ever going to be a number, and I can say that from an undergraduate standpoint all the way though as a graduate. You know I’m even thinking about a post-masters certificate at this point and I probably would go here because I love this university. You know you’re not going to be a number here and they want you to succeed you know it brings a sense I think of fulfillment, of worth almost you know this university wants to really produce you know great health care providers. They kind of change as necessary to be as innovative and forthcoming with clinical practices and I don’t know, this the university kind is very community community involved as well. So you’re not just going to be student letter A, B, or C here they know you by your name, your face, and they want you to do well.

Totally agree with Jamie on that one that was the best part about this program I was probably the only time I in my education I didn’t feel like a number, like I felt like Aimee, like you’re Aimee. You’re here to do your job it is one of the biggest challenges ever but anybody that I mean in it as it should be because it you’re taking care of people when you’re done you’re the last line between someone with high blood pressure stroking out smarter or not.

Like it’s a huge responsibility and they definitely prepare you for it. If I don’t know something when I’m out, I know I don’t know, and I’m comfortable always asking, which this program really prepares you to do that, to say ‘I don’t know, I don’t know everything’ but I know what I don’t know and I know how to ask, and I know who to ask. I have reached out to in the past two years, multiple times to other classmates that I knew about into specialties or I’ve reached out to my old professors for questions about stuff, like a phone a friend. It’s absolutely phenomenal and I think if you’re thinking about if you’ve made it to the point that you’re sitting on this webinar then you’re probably to the point that you’re ready to do this. It’s the best thing, the hardest challenge and the best thing I’ve ever done. Agreed, I can say that I’ve there have been a lot of a lot of jobs in nursing that I’ve kind of liked and you know they comes and goes with the season, this is the only thing that I’ve ever really been proud of myself, and say that I love what I do every single day. I mean that.

Wonderful! I think I want to sign up for that. Thank you for that, definitely want to open it up for a few questions from our audience and one of our very first questions is: Is it possible to complete my clinical hours while still working a typical 9:00 to 5:00 Monday through Friday job? I would it would be very, very challenging. There’s actually a young lady that works in my office and she’s a an 8:00 to 4:30 you know worker, I went to 10-hour days for a while in the beginning and then I would go to 12-hour shifts I did 3-12s and somehow I was able to to do all of the clinical hours, even in the last semesters where you required to do the most hours successfully, but my employer was really flexible. They gave me what I needed from a work perspective with 3-12 hour shifts, and then you know my area that was still considered full-time nursing so I had all the benefits included.

I agree with Jamie I think if you did 3-12 it’s definitely doable, but I think 9 to 5 like I will basically work 9:00 to 5:00 now and it would be I couldn’t imagine doing the school working 9:00 to 5:00 and trying to fit in, unless you had an employer that was okay with you taking a couple weeks break to do clinical hours or a week or a couple days off here and there, knowing that you’re not going to be a steady worker for that time you’re in that program.

Fantastic and do you ladies think that it was you had the hardest time, you know, working that schedule the second year of the program when you started clinicals or right from the start from you know from first semester one all the way to semester eight? I mean I know both you and Aimee, you know one is full MSN FNP and the other one was a post certificate but do you feel that while you’re just taking your core courses you’re still able to manage that and then it’s the second year where you found it more difficult to maintain that work schedule and do clinicals? I never did the core thing separately, like I just kind of went right into to do in classes and I taught for Duquesne. I think originally like three days a week and my sister just had a baby, I had I was babysitting for her, so I was able to swing it the first semester, the second semester doing it was more clinical hours. I had to cut back to two days a week and I only watched my nephew one day a week, so I’d essentially worked three days a week and that was doable, but as time went on and more hours accumulated I cut back to I think eventually just went to one day a week teaching for Duquesne. I think for me I did in the beginning I started in the summer rotation, where everybody started in the summer without just an introductory one credit course that was fine and then the fall semesters I was still able to do a four day, 40-hour work shift but no I didn’t work in the middle of the night either. I did daylight for ten and so you know I don’t know how I could do it you know working in the middle of the night and things like that, but I can attest that some of my students now do that, and like you said I think as it got you know as time went on I needed to really talk to my employer and say this is what I’m doing and this is what I need from you and can we make this work. They were very kind and you know they were willing to work with me and move forward but once you start to get into like 150 clinical hours and then the 240 or whatever it is now he was 240 or 250, in the last two semesters -yeah I could not. I mean I took a lot of vacation days too just so I could have time to kind of really regroup because most of the clinical hours I mean it’s Monday through Friday, not on weekends you know unless you have one of those offices who have Saturday hours and things so yeah it did get intense towards the end but that you just have to have be upfront with your employer and say hey this is what I need, is this doable, and if it’s not well then you know you may want to redirect your focus. Ccan you go part-time with work or that kind of thing?

Outstanding, thank you for that and actually that actually leads into one of our next questions, one of the questions we had was: does Duquesne help to find preceptors for clinicals? So as far as from our perspective when we use that you can tell you that students are ultimately responsible for securing their own clinical sites in preceptors, however the School of Nursing does have a significant network of past preceptors and alumni definitely lend support to the program, and we also actually have a graduate clinical coordinator, so she actually is there to support our family nurse practitioner students in the efforts to secure an appropriate preceptor. But I’d like to get some insight from either Jamie or Aimee about your experience of finding preceptors and how that worked.

I think it’s changed a little bit just as more programs are growing, so what I may have done may not be applicable now. I worked it towards hospitals to begin with so I knew had some connections at Children’s in Pittsburgh ,and I was lucky enough to have some of our professors here at Duquesne kind of take me on as their student. So you know they advise you to start looking for these sites you know immediately if not sooner but there’s a way to go about kind of acquiring the site appropriately within you know the organizations and things. In the local hospitals you know nobody found my clinical sites for me and nobody guaranteed them for me but if I was having any trouble I felt confident, that you know they put me with somebody in a pinch if they could. Now there was a lot of efforts on my part to like I got license in other states so I could work with our clinical faculty, but there is a lot of community and our sense to where versus now I’m precepting a student you know and so we kind of all work together and if we know that this there’s a student that really struggling finding these sites ,you know we try to do everything that we can and phone our friend and keep a preceptor in our back pocket in case we need somebody. I have 19 students this semester and none of them have had any trouble finding a lot of their sites.

So I agree all I had over half agree with Jamie about a lot of it it’s hard to find people start looking immediately ahead of time. I was also blessed enough to have some instructor in Duquesne take me under her wing and it was a fantastic experience and I also used a lot of my people you missed through your nursing career like ‘hey do you know someone that would take me’ here who you know. It’s a lot of networking, which is actually good because then when you’re done it gives you some, makes networking a lot easier. I actually also have taken on a student this semester, I took a student on from Duquesne’s program so there’s definitely a sense of community and the instructors at Duquesne will say like’ hey I know so-and-so will take students to choose a former student’. So that’s one of the phenomenal things about Duquesne. Aimee, you and I must have had the same preceptor. I’m thinking we did.

Thank you, and actually to go along with that we actually have another great question what type of places were you allowed to do your clinicals at? Any information on that for us?

There’s a lot of thought that goes into an appropriateness for a clinic location, because you’re being trained as a family nurse practitioner you have to – I just had this conversation with some faculty, I mean you have to kind of be in that primary or family setting for the majority portion of your clinical hours. They do permit a certain allotment, a certain percentage, into specialty our field as well as you know some urgent care work, some women’s health rotations, and pediatric rotation but they’re very forthcoming, and there’s a reason for that.

You know, by law you have to be able to say that you are trained correctly and so that’s why a lot of the hours really need to be done in that family setting. Then it’s you when you’re done, you appreciate it and if anybody if you decide to do this program and get the opportunity to do some hours in derm that would probably be the only thing I didn’t do. A specialty in that I wish I would have and I actually did a double, like two different semesters I picked up specialty hours with endocrine which was a huge benefit as an FNP in dealing with endocrine stuff, like diabetes, thyroid, all that fun kidney disease. It helped phenomenally.

So when you do choose your specialties you get to do think of what you would see mostly at a doctor’s office, like you would see your diabetic patients, you’ll manage heart disease, so you need to know the basics and enough to know. And like Amy said, I interrupted you when you were talking about your free clinic experience, I think that’s important to share yeah that was a I’m assuming you got the same experience I did. Yes it was phenomenal, if you get an opportunity to do a free clinic or something along those lines, it is an experience you will never pass up. You get to see things that you normally wouldn’t get to see and you had to manage things that people you would never see in a PCP’s office because people would bypass you just to go directly to a specialist, which actually I think helped me. Like when I worked at the private practice in the interim, I wasn’t there was nothing that walked through the door that I wasn’t prepared for or that I was intimidated by, that I couldn’t say ‘okay I’m going to make some calls or let me look something up I’ll be right back’. I was never because I got such a rich experience at this free clinic, and it was so hands-on, and we got to deal with the medication hands-on and actually you not only prescribed, you dispensed. I would count pills and you did a lot of teaching, so it any experience you can get like that that it’s more individualized and not like our big system here, is you can see which is a phenomenal hospital system, but everybody has their own specialty, so you don’t get a lot of one-on-one interaction sometimes with your patients as much as you like. Situations like a free clinic or I have a friend who works with homeless people, get to know your patients and you do a lot of education which you will learn in the Duquesne program stands.

Thank you ladies, another great question that we just come in how many hours a week did you study on top of your clinical hours? I guess that’s dependent on what we were what we were studying and how comfortable I was with it. But there was a lot of study time. My husband and I would go we go camping a lot to go camping and it’s a two-hour drive there two and half hour drive up two and a half hour drive back I would read review books on the way up or I would print off notes to read on the way up and back. He would quiz me here instead of reading leisurely when we went camping or I was sitting outside by the fire I would be reading my medical books like I didn’t read a book for two and a half years other than something that involved some kind of bodily function.

I think what do they say if it’s a three credit course you should be devoting that many hours per week, is that right I don’t know, something like that. I think it would just it just kind of depend on your level of confidence, but yeah I agreed with Aimee, that there was no non-school reading for the past for the two and a half years that I was in the program. I didn’t really know what to do when I was done. If you didn’t know that, we’re definitely here to tell you that you get used to it like I actually sometimes miss like I’ll pick up, I’ll google stuff, on just to look it up or getting up to date, just to read on it because I miss reading new things and learning new things.

So it looks like we have time for just two more questions. So one of the questions that we have here is did you take your certification exam right out of school or did you take more time post school? I applied online, if we graduated May 5th I took mine on June 6th. You’ll get both perspectives because I graduated on May 9th and I took mine in August 26th.

Outstanding, and then one of the other questions that I think goes hand-in-hand nowadays, how rigorous would the physical assessment course at Duquesne? I think it was pretty rigorous, you know you come to a campus we have campus week and when I was in the program I know they’ve changed it a lot now where they kind of change the dates and things, whereas I went for a full five days I think the days are maybe a little shorter where they go a little bit longer now. But I mean you learned the ins and the outs of it and you had to perform and you know if there was something that you were not confident in, they would have workshops and things to show you how to really you know, be better at it. ,So you know after that introductory week on physical assessment that I really felt like I could take what I was learning into my clinical practice and like anything you’ll get out of something I think what you put into it. You really have to want to be like well let me do that, or show me this, and the more you, do the more you see, the more practice you’re going to get the more comfortable you’re going to get.

Yeah, I agree with Amy I love that and that week was actually fun like I enjoyed it. I went to Penn State for my undergraduate, and it was they had a really good physical assessment program we actually did a lot of the same things reviewed, it was more like a review for me but it was hard, but it was like fun hard, like they didn’t make it so you went in and you were stressed the whole time ‘am I going to pass’ or ‘am I going to fail’. It was like okay take a deep breath, and pretend this is a patient and someone’s not watching you, it was hard but it was a really fun week. Also, the university since I’ve been working as clinical adjunct they came up with a program that’s really its innovative and they have videos that you can watch an assessment over and over again until you get it right or until you feel comfortable and performing it like in real life. Whereas, sometimes if you just read a physical assessment book you can read how to do the exam, but now they show you. You know how you can perform it, you know, watch it now.

So outstanding ladies, thank you and I think we have just one last question, I promise last one. Can you talk to us a little bit about your experience of residency when you came onto campus and how that looked? It was I don’t know how it was for Jamie for me, my first year they did an abbreviated it instead of five eight-hour days they did three 12s for the clinical instructors that will go people that were their clinical instructors for them. It was it was intense like you did assess, like you did head-to-toe assessments on your classmates, and you had to take -which I don’t think they do anymore so please correct me if I’m wrong, we had to take a 3P exam, I’m not sure if they still do that. We had to take an exam at one point during its residency week or whatever it was and then the second year it was five days I think, and we sat in and we did a really cool workshop, and we got to do presentations on the different types of nursing, how the Affordable Care Act affected healthcare. It was again, it was it was more of a fun week to get to kind of network with everybody that you knew from online, and it was time to kind of solidify all these things that were floating out there. They just kind of pulled in and everything clicked.

Yeah I agree, I think the first year when I did it with it with the five days that is intense and it is hard and it is challenging that’s like I feel like that year is the working year to really get to get the experience. Then the second year is kind of like it’s kind of like a breath of fresh air almost, Duquesne with some really excellent local providers that they have come in to university and they go over you know reading x-rays, sitting techniques, little things that you may see in clinic. You know after that week I felt like, ‘oh man I think I might be able to really do that’ and then they had other students come back and talk to us about their experiences. They also that was when we did the presentations with ANCC and a AANP and you know what’s different between the two exams and things.

The second year is kind of like, ‘okay I’m going to put all the hard work that I did into action now and really do this’ so I do think it come it really provides a sense of community. It’s a mandatory thing and you know people might not want to travel to Pittsburgh but it’s just one week out of your year, and you really get to network and collaborate with your classmates, because they’re your family you know. For the next two and a half years.

I actually was we were local in Pittsburgh there was a group of four of us that we all became closer and realized how close we lived and we would go meet at a middle point, and I actually miss them like I’ll text them ‘I miss you’ because I’m so used to seeing them two or three days a week sometimes. That’s definitely a sense of how you’ll feel once you start the program and you finish because you are really starting with a cohort, it’s not just your classmates but you become you know family, and essentially once you graduate it’s you’ve created lifelong friendships and networking and you guys can bounce ideas off one another or you know again connections as well.

Actually there have been some changes kind of going back to what you ladies have said so now residency requirements have actually been condensed so for the family a nurse practitioner full MSN program, semester four is actually two and a half to three days long for physical assessment labs and then the seventh semester which is the foundations of family and individual care one course has been condensed to two and a half to four days which is typically Monday through Thursday so it’s about 8 to 10 hour days. So you know that’s a little bit of a change for the new cohorts coming in so you know they’ve really tried to you know continue to provide the rigor to the program but really lean itself towards the working professional so that’s a good thing that we can see for the new cohorts coming in.

So, perfect ladies, it looks like that’s it for all the questions we’re going to get today. Thank you for those that submitted a question and definitely a huge thanks to Jamie and Aimee for spending some time with us today to talk about your experiences at Duquesne, especially in regards to the FNP program. I definitely think that I’m a sign up for this program! To our audiences, if you have any questions about our FNP program or if you’re interested in getting started please reach out to your respective enrollment advisors. We can definitely help you with the next steps. Again thank you so much, and we look forward to speaking to all of our participants in the future.